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The Original, Forgotten BATMAN 89 SEQUEL Comic? (with John Hefner/About-Faces)



Learn about a forgotten part of comic history as we dive into the ORIGINAL Batman 89 sequel comic- a Sunday newspaper strip that ran from 1989-1991 that loosely tied into the Tim Burton film! Picking up after the defeat of the Joker, the strip had its own Catwoman, Penguin, Riddler, and Mad Hatter, as well as featured its own take on the return of the Joker, Harvey Dent’s turn into Two-Face, the origin of Robin, and a big finale set within Arkham Asylum! John Hefner of about-faces and Daily Batman joins us to discuss this rare gem and the unsung contributions that writer Bill Messner-Loebs provided to the Batman mythos.


CHAPTERS:

00:00 Introduction


Ben teased this episode, under the title "The Best Comics You've Never Read," during our Dark Knight vs. The Comics series, which you can check out here.


John Hefner has the scans of the newspaper comic strip on his tumblr The Daily Batman at https://batman-daily.tumblr.com/ where you can read the script for yourself.


02:13 What IS The Batman 89 Sequel Comic Strip?


The Joker falling into water is likely taken from Marshall Rogers's previous work, collaborating with Steve Englehart, on "The Sign of the Joker" (part two of "The Laughing FIsh" and part of the Strange Apparitions collection that we covered here).


Englehart himself wrote this as the Joker's fate at the end of both of his script treatments in 1986 for the film, which we also covered here.


07:38 The First Arc: Catwoman


21:57 Bill Messner-Loebs & The Origin of Bruce and Harvey as Friends


31:47 The ORIGINAL Batman-Gordon-Dent Rooftop Meeting & Preview to Our Long Halloween Episode


36:32 The Red Hood & The Return of the Joker


45:13 The Trial of the Joker


David Goyer's full quote about the sequel plans for Batman Begins come from an interview with Premiere magazine:


"The next one would have Batman enlisting the aid of Gordon and Dent in bringing down The Joker...but not killing him, which is a mistake they made in the first one," Batwriter David Goyer tells the latest issue of U.S. movie magazine PREMIERE. "In the third, the Joker would go on trial, scarring Dent in the process."

54:01 Break: Chat of the Wild promo, Barkbox promo

This is a promo for another podcast in the Greenlit Podcast Network, Chat of the Wild, which you can find here.

Check out our link for Barkbox here.


55:13 The (Second) Birth of Two-Face


1:03:05 The Origin of Robin

We had a series last year to commemorate Robin's 80th Anniversary where we covered the evolution of Robin's origins, starting with this episode.


This version was covered in the Patreon episode here.


1:06:47 The Deadly Riddle- The Dumbest Riddler


1:11:42 The Grand Finale- Mad Hatter & Arkham Asylum


1:16:12 Why Isn't This Strip Available To Buy?


1:18:06 Ways to Support Bill Messner-Loebs

GoFundMe (Keep in mind that this was paused for donations when we tried to donate around the time of the recording, but save the link in case this changes)

Commissions

YEET Presents

Fans of William Messner-Loebs


1:27:01 SPOILER Discussion: Why The Ending is How The Dark Knight Should Have Ended


1:34:45 Closing: Fan Comments & Social Media Shout Outs


BIG THANKS TO:

Our guest John Hefner

https://about-faces.tumblr.com/

https://about-faces.livejournal.com/

https://batman-daily.tumblr.com/

And thanks to our research assistant, Dan Yamat, for the time codes for these chapters.

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