Search

The Unmade RETURN of Jack Nicholson's Joker

Updated: Jun 14



Did you know Jack Nicholson's Joker could have returned for Batman Returns? On the 30th anniversary of the Batman sequel, we cover the MULTIPLE attempts to bring Jack Nicholson’s Joker back from the dead, from Sam Hamm’s pitch for the opening of Batman 2 to hallucinations in Batman Forever & the unmade Batman Unchained to a project...by Charlie Kaufman and Spike Jonze?


Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code JOHNSONSBALLSACK at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #sponsored

Chapters

0:00 Introduction


Thumbnail by Arron Quinn! Check out Arron's IG here: https://www.instagram.com/arronquinnproductions/?hl=en


2:07 The Decision to Kill Joker in Batman 1989


The article revealing that Ray Liotta and Willem Dafoe were Sam Hamm's choices for Joker comes from here: http://www.1989batman.com/2013/12/vintage-magazine-article-comics-scene.html


You can read Sam Hamm's original Batman draft here, in which Joker was the same age as Batman, did not kill Bruce's parents, and died from his fall from the cathedral, while seeing the helicopter explode from Batman's bomb.


We covered the Batman newspaper strip here:

You can read it here: https://batman-daily.tumblr.com/


David Goyer's full quote about how killing off the Joker was a mistake comes from an interview with Premiere magazine:


"The next one would have Batman enlisting the aid of Gordon and Dent in bringing down The Joker...but not killing him, which is a mistake they made in the first one," Batwriter David Goyer tells the latest issue of U.S. movie magazine PREMIERE. "In the third, the Joker would go on trial, scarring Dent in the process."

14:02 Sam Hamm's Pitch to Resurrect the Joker for Batman 2

Sam Hamm's recent interview, revealing his pitch to bring him back in the opening of Batman 2:

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/batman-89-writer-reveals-original-two-face-sequel-plan/


Logan Wood provided the fan art of the Joker's trial from the Sam Hamm pitch:

Check out his Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/shanehelms121/


19:41 Sam Hamm's Batman 2: Why Jack Napier Killed The Waynes

We covered the unmade Sam Hamm Batman 2 script here:

You can read it for yourself here: https://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/batman-returns_unproduced.html


25:56 The Joker's Cut References & Cameo in Batman Forever

We covered the Batman Forever script here:


You can read the draft with Joker references here: http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/batman_forever.html


And we covered the Batman Forever novelization here:


34:07 The Joker in Arkham?: Joker's Cut Reference in Batman & Robin

We covered the Batman & Robin script originally here:



Before we covered an even earlier draft, which also mentioned Joker here:



You can read the later draft here, which has the reference: https://sfy.ru/?script=batman_and_robin


35:03 Break

Check out our link for Barkbox here.


Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code JOHNSONSBALLSACK at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #sponsored


41:21 Joker Returns in the Video Game- Batman: Return of the Joker

We covered the retro video games here:



42:42 Joker Through the Fear Gas- Mark Protosevich's Batman Unchained

We covered the plans for Batman Unchained here:


You can check out the Batman Enigma fan comic here:

https://twitter.com/EnigmaBatman


43:51 The History of Joker's Resurrections in the Comics

We covered the different Joker resurrections in the Golden Age (as well as the possibility of the Joker being supernatural) here:


57:05 Joker Resurrected?- Ian Mansfield's Batman: The Joker's Revenge

Cal Slayton's fan art of Jack Nicholson's Joker and Michael Keaton's Batman in Batman 251- The Joker's Five Way Revenge comes from here:

https://batmannotes.com/post/173231352283/batman-1989251-cover-mashup-by-cal-slayton


Details about Ian Mansfield's Batman: The Joker's Revenge came from translations here:

http://www.batcave.com.pl/old/index2.php?id=zawieszone_batmanrotj


The details about Ian's Batman collection (and Clayface being part of the script) come from here:

http://www.toymania.com/news/messages/6622.shtml


1:04:20 Jack Nicholson's Desire to Return

The quote from Jack Nicholson comes from this tweet:

https://twitter.com/BatmanAnthology/status/1528839105827991553


Original tweet from Bats from the Belfry (@Stitche09370990) who found this article.


1:06:20 Cloning the Joker- Batman Vs Superman

We covered the unmade Batman vs Superman script here:

You can read the draft for yourself here:


1:07:23 Old Man Joker?- The Joker in Evening

The details on Kaufman's pitch for The Joker in Evening came from this podcast cliip:

1:09:43 The Joker Returned?- Crisis on Infinite Earths


We found the images of the Organ Grinder deleted scene from here:

https://batman.fandom.com/wiki/Organ_Grinder

1:20:36 Fan Comments


1:32:54 Closing: Fan Shout outs and Social Media Promotion


Big thanks to our research assistant Dan Yamat for providing the visuals for this YouTube experience, as well as the usual QC and chapter time codes.

Please record us a “bumper” saying “You’re listening to Superhero Stuff You Should Know” and send it over to superhousepodcast@gmail.comAlso to any animators- we’d love to see our sketches animated. Please include #SuperheroStuffYouShould Know IN the video


Become a part of the Shasta Army on our Patreon page:

https://www.patreon.com/m/superherostuffpod


SuperHouse on iTunes: https://apple.co/3ctz4lN


Please leave us a review in iTunes!


SuperHouse on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2yq3Kpo


INSTAGRAM: @superherostuffpod


TWITTER: Twitter.com/SuperhousePod


FACEBOOK: Facebook.com/SuperHousePod


Please join our Facebook group where you can interact with us and other fans!


YOUTUBE: YouTube.com/c/SuperHousePodcast


Please email us at: SuperHousePodcast@gmail.com


ANDREW’S CHANNEL/WEBSITE:


IG: ThunderWolfDrew


Twitter: ThunderWolfDrew


YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/thunderwolflives


Website: www.thunderwolfdrew.com/


BEN'S CHANNEL/WEBSITE:


IG: BenWanWriter


My Cat’s IG: AlfiePennyworthCat


YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6nG7A354pour2CUw0co3Ug


Website: http://www.benwanwriter.com ZACHARY JACKSON BROWN


IG: @zacharyjacksonbrownart

https://www.zacharyjacksonbrownart.com/


SUPERHOUSE MERCH: http://superhousepod.redbubble.com/

Teepublic

Threadless

59 views0 comments