What's The Best Return of Superman? Comics Vs. Movie Adaptations

(By Ben Wan)

Last week, we compared the death of Superman at the hands of Doomsday. This week, we cover the Funeral for a Friend, the Reign of the Supermen, and the Return of Superman in a black suit, then compare the comics to Superman Doomsday (2007), Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) and Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021), and The Death of Superman (2018) and Reign of the Supermen (2019). CHAPTERS: 0:04 Matt Herring GoFund Me Bumper Please donate what you can to our friend and fan of the podcast Matt Herring, who is battling Stage 4 colon cancer. Click here for Matt Herring's GoFundMe 1:45 “Superman's Funeral Part Two" with Ben as Metallo, Zachary Brown as Superman and Lobo, and Andrew as Mr. Mxyzptlk This sketch, as well as the whole episode, is a sequel/continuation to our previous episode, “What’s the Best Death of Superman?”:

4:43 Introduction 7:43 Funeral For a Friend: Superman's Funeral in the Comics 11:53 Adaptations of Superman's Funeral 19:46 What's the Best Superman Funeral? 24:17 Introducing The Reign of the Supermen in the Comics 25:58 The Last Son of Krypton/The Eradicator 30:08 Superboy/Connor Kent 31:26 Steel/The Man of Steel/John Henry Irons We pitched an alternative way to introduce Steel in our Man of Tomorrow pitch:

33:10 Cyborg Superman/Hank Henshaw 37:44 Who's Your Favorite "Superman" Imposter? 40:25 Adaptations of the Reign of Supermen 44:04 What's the Best Reign of the Supermen? 49:23 Break: No More Whoppers Promo, BarkBox Promo, and "Doomsday's Real Voice" Patreon Sketch with Andrew as Doomsday and Ben as Superman, and DaCrema Fan Bumper This is a promo for another podcast in the Greenlit Podcast Network, No More Whoppers, which you can find here. Check out our link for Barkbox here. 53:29 The Return/Resurrection of Superman Superman returns in a black suit. We did a deeper dive into all the times that Superman wore a black suit in our $5 Patreon episode here. 58:36 Adaptations of Superman's Resurrection 1:03:45 Superman's Resurrection in Zack Snyder's Justice League Zack Snyder’s comment on how the time code of Superman’s death in Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition is the same as the Flash resurrecting him in Zack Snyder’s Justice League: “Come on, guys. I literally just said that the other day, I was like ‘I wonder if it’s a bible passage. I’m going to say this… there’s a chance it was on purpose. There’s a chance it was a coincidence. If it’s a coincidence, then it’s such a crazy coincidence, that it’s not a coincidence.” Zack Snyder on comparing Superman’s black suit in the comics vs. the use of it in the film: “It comes from Death of Superman of course. But I'm also into this Robert Bly book The Red, White, and Black. The white of naivety, the red of anger, and the black of humanity. I just felt like the black suit is really symbolic of that as well. But also, frankly, I flew him straight up to the sun to charge him up. I like the black suit as a practical thing of there needing to be a way for Superman to charge up quickly and be stronger than he was. So it works in a theoretical and symbolic way.” Zack Snyder on wanting his Superman to look closer to the comics when he came back from the dead: "We talked about it a lot, and I was a slight advocate, a little bit, for the mullet. But, I think there was no way to go back from that, and at the time the studio was really leaning on me pretty hard. I was lucky to be able to figure it out so I could get the black suit." 1:11:04 What's the Best Return of Superman? 1:15:30 Credits for The Death and Return of Superman Comic Creators The final credits towards the creators come from the novelization The Death and Life of Superman by Roger Stern. 1:19:43 Closing: Fan Comments and Social Media Promotion We did a deeper dive into the Reign of the Supermen arc in our Patreon episode for the week:

We dive deeper into Funeral for a Friend and the Reign of the Supermen, where we compare how Batman reacted to Superman’s death in the comics vs. how he did in BvS, the evolution of Superboy/Conner Kent and how Smallville had Superboy BEFORE Superman, the origins of Steel/John Henry Irons, and then discussion on Superman & Lois’s recent take on the characters from this era. Check out the episode and join our $5 Patreon tier here. THANKS TO OUR GUEST: ZacharyJacksonBrownArt (who also did the thumbnail) IG: @zacharyjacksonbrownart https://www.zacharyjacksonbrownart.com/ Please record us a “bumper” saying “You’re listening to Superhero Stuff You Should Know” and send it over to superhousepodcast@gmail.com Also to any animators- we’d love to see our sketches animated. Please include #SuperheroStuffYouShould Know IN the video Become a part of the Shasta Army on our Patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/m/superherostuffpod SuperHouse on iTunes: https://apple.co/3ctz4lN Please leave us a review in iTunes! SuperHouse on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2yq3Kpo INSTAGRAM: @superherostuffpod TWITTER: Twitter.com/SuperhousePod FACEBOOK: Facebook.com/SuperHousePod Please join our Facebook group where you can interact with us and other fans! YOUTUBE: YouTube.com/c/SuperHousePodcast Please email us at: SuperHousePodcast@gmail.com ANDREW’S CHANNEL/WEBSITE: IG: ThunderWolfDrew Twitter: ThunderWolfDrew YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/thunderwolflives Website: www.thunderwolflives.com/ BEN'S CHANNEL/WEBSITE: IG: BenWanWriter My Cat’s IG: AlfiePennyworthCat Earl E. Bird- upcoming children’s comic: http://earl-e-bird.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6nG7A354pour2CUw0co3Ug Website: http://www.benwanwriter.com SUPERHOUSE MERCH: http://superhousepod.redbubble.com/ Teepublic Threadless